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    I can't believe anyone was welding the nut to the axle in the first place. I suppose it beats a wheel falling off but damn that's going to extremes.

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    Has anyone had their nuts loosen on a factory stock (untouched by owner beforehand) machine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsanut View Post
    Has anyone had their nuts loosen on a factory stock (untouched by owner beforehand) machine?

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    Plenty of peeps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMan View Post
    TX, would you happen to know what size roll pin works? I dont have a selection and will need to order these.
    Any Lowes, Home Depot, or hardware store worth a damn will have roll pins in stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxChristopher View Post
    Plenty of peeps.
    So it's happened to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsanut View Post
    So it's happened to you?

    Joe
    No, I saw it happen to several others so I took mine apart to see how to stop it. I found that the nuts were already eating away the plate so I was on my way to having it happen. I swapped the plates with the other side and installed roll pins. Problem solved.

    Sorta like the people that have lost wheels because the studs break off, I never had that problem because I went in and put in beefy studs to make sure it doesn't happen to me.

    I haul too much ass to have a tire come flying off so these were problems I felt I should take care of BEFORE they got me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrArmor View Post
    Check out what we have engineered to COMPLETELY take care of this issue.... We have laser cut washers that have the same axle nut shape on the inside and weld them to the gold axle locking ring. NO more broken cotter pins because they are not even needed now... PM me for pricing and details. These are limited right now so first come first serve. We have raced since last summer about 2 times a month and this solution ahs taken care of this. No more welding the nut to the axle and the weld heat taking out strength of the axle...

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    Took the rear wheel of my X today. AC is now mounting this same setup from the factory, apparently. A little cleaner one-piece stamping, but same deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box View Post
    I think some of the problem is in the fact that the axle is not floating. A traditional auto setup would have the hub pressed into the wheel bearings, with the weight of the vehicle supported by the hub and bearings... the axle only has the drive (twisting) force applied to it.

    The Wildcat uses the axle stub supported by the bearings to carry the weight of each corner. Its a crap design IMO and I think the forces being applied to it cause the nuts to loosen if they are not loctited/torqued/and safety locked properly.
    I'm almost positive that all atv's use this design. All I have worked on did.

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    I believe the wildcat 4 2013.5 comes with a factory set up like that to keep the nut from backing off. its a great idea having a plate to hold the nut from backing off that is sandwiched in between the hub and rim.
    Last edited by dirtdiggler; 06-18-2013 at 09:41 PM. Reason: wrong quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdiggler View Post
    I believe the wildcat 4 2013.5 comes with a factory set up like that to keep the nut from backing off. its a great idea having a plate to hold the nut from backing off that is sandwiched in between the hub and rim.

    That's great, except all of them have had the plate right from day one, so it is nothing new. The nut strips out the teeth on the plate.


 
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