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Hi There,

New to the forum here, apologies if this has been covered in the past I didn't see anything when I searched.

Looking to pick up a 19 Trail XT from my dealer in Alberta here, I am wondering if anyone has any experience with putting these in a 6.5' box, on a riser?

I've got a 2015 2500 Duramax, that I use to tow, would really like to be able to put this in the box and still tow my trailer behind. For that to happen I cant have my tailgate down, I was hoping that Reversed onto these risers, with the tailgate off it would sit either still in the bed, or just hanging off. I figured that reversed up would be the best way for the weight situation.

I have thought about the extensions for the trailer, but being its around 6500# with a fair amount of tongue weight (2x6V Deep Cycles and 60# of propane) i'm not super excited about using them.

Pics of the riser I was looking at and my current setup, Bonus points to anyone who knows what kind of bike is in the box :)




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Those risers won't get you enough-for short quads. I have been looking at options same idea. Either need a top deck like sleds that overhangs the back or a missile launcher type. Wheelbase and oal are too much compared to the stubby razrs.
 

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Two quick Google searches indicate you are dealing with 106" of wheelbase and tire even if the Trail had zero overhang front and rear. That's going to be hard to shoehorn into a 78" box. You'll need a rack that puts the front wheels on top of the cab.
 

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Pythagorean Theorem says no and that you would need the riser to be ~78 inches tall to make it fit in the bed. Of course there are a lot of other factors to impact this but that is a rough idea. You're going to need to go over the top of the cab a bit, which shouldn't be a big deal in a light Trail and a 2500 truck.

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this is what I did to my trailer. I moved the tongue jack back so the tail gate can be in the down position than you can just put your cat in the box. 20170612_153002.jpg
 

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or you can make a tail gate with a v center so it swings around the jack 20150912_190039.jpg 20150912_190049.jpg
 

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Thats interesting moving the jack backwards, I dont have a ton of room up there as it will hit the propane tanks but even a little bit of space could make a big difference. My issue with the V tailgate is I will still be hitting on turning, prob would need a combo of all of these.
 

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Do you use a weight distributing hitch. It looked like you dont but. if you did it will put you ball back far enough for the v tail gate and the hitch will take some of the weight off the back of the truck and or give you room for tongue jack to be move back you would have to measure look at the picture it has a hitch on it. when I moved the jack back Iwas driving a gmc 2500
 

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Here is another.
http://toy-tote.com/?page_id=565
Have you thought of going to a Toy-Hauler RV trailer?
Main reason I will keep my toyhauler rv trailer, frees up the pickup bed for everything else.
 

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I dont use a weight distributing hitch. I had one when I used to tow with a 1500, but with the bigger truck it really doesn't seem to need it. Less swaying then I used to have and i'm not even close to the rear axle capacity. I have thought of a toy hauler, but unfortunately its just not in the cards to spend 30+k on a new trailer, and this vanguard has been an absolute beast.

Unfortunately it looks like I might have to be swayed to go the RZR route.... Which is unfortunate being I said I would never buy another Polaris as long as I lived, and is 5k more expensive in my area.
 

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I dont use a weight distributing hitch. I had one when I used to tow with a 1500, but with the bigger truck it really doesn't seem to need it. Less swaying then I used to have and i'm not even close to the rear axle capacity. I have thought of a toy hauler, but unfortunately its just not in the cards to spend 30+k on a new trailer, and this vanguard has been an absolute beast.

Unfortunately it looks like I might have to be swayed to go the RZR route.... Which is unfortunate being I said I would never buy another Polaris as long as I lived, and is 5k more expensive in my area.
Not sure I understand the Rzr route. It's not going to fit in a 6.5' bed without a rack either, so I don't get what you'd gain.
 

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The RZR's center of wheel to center of wheel is just over 6" less when measured. Just means it will fit better then the wildcat unfortunately. Im going to need a rack regardless I believe, its just how far they stick out afterwards.
 

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If you're getting a rack though, does the 6" matter? If you're going for the rack that just extends the bed/ tailgate, it matters but I don't see how you can tow like that. If you're going for the tailgate up and the machine up on top like a sled deck or a rack up over the cab, I don't think it matters. Especially for $5k and the fact you said "... I would never buy another Polaris as long as I lived...". Even if you spend $5k on a rack, you still didn't have to spend money on something you really don't want.
 

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my 2014 trail is 10' long with bumpers, I cant see how it would ever fit in a truck bed??
 

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I purchased a Diamondback SXS cover with extensions for my 8' Ram bed.

https://diamondbackcovers.com/products/diamondbacksxs?variant=30033041417

It hasnt shipped yet, so I have nothing to really say about quality, etc. Unfortunately at 98" from tip of nose to the center of the rear tire on the trails, I dont think it would work for your 6.5 foot bed although there is a pic there showing a can-am SXS sitting on top with just the risers. The plus is that you would have a solid rain proof tonneau cover to store and lock stuff in. They are kind of pricey.

These are some others I looked at before I made a decision:

https://www.loadit.com/over-the-truck-rail-utv-loader/ Canadian

https://sledecks.com/utv/

https://www.alpinedesignsoffroad.com/product/alpine-super-rack

https://sidebysidetruckracks.com/information-and-specifications/

https://marlonproducts.com/

Hope this helps
 
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