[Xclayam]

Hello all. I recently got the long travel kit. Had a buddy do the work. After the first ride out it was discovered that the rear brake line rubbed through from the inside of the rims. Couldn't figure out how or why this happened unless it wasn't installed properly the first time. My buddy seems to think maybe he put the rears on the front or that my rims are too small. I've searched the forum looking for similar issues but I've only found a few posts and haven't found pictures of trails with the long travel kit from the rear. Can anyone help me out and show me where the brake lines should be routed or if you encountered the same issue what your solution was?

I have a 2016 trail xt. I believe my rims are 12" with 27" 's. Perhaps that's the issue?

I went ahead and ordered new rear brake lines from super atv.

Also are fox shocks standard on these? That's what I currently have. And everything I read keeps saying to go with bandits or the very least go with bandit springs. Are they required or just highly recommended? I understand the difference is night and day... Just $1200 for new shocks is a lot after $1800 for the LTK.

I'm a noob at most of this so thanks in advance.

 

[SuperATV]

Here's the instructions: https://www.superatv.com/amfile/file/download/file/1050/product/1942/
Check out the rear arm installation instructions and compare your brake line setup. Should run down the front side of the lower arm. Wheel spacers should be a quick fix, but you should be able to reroute the brake lines so they clear.

 

[Xclayam]

Thank you for the reply.

Wheel spacers because the rears are 3" shorter than the front? Are the wheel spacers reccomended to avoid this issue? That's the first time I've seen that mentioned anywhere.

Any recommendations on the wheel spacers?

 

[mtgott]

Here's the instructions: https://www.superatv.com/amfile/file/download/file/1050/product/1942/
Check out the rear arm installation instructions and compare your brake line setup. Should run down the front side of the lower arm. Wheel spacers should be a quick fix, but you should be able to reroute the brake lines so they clear.

Ordered the kit Wednesday afternoon and it was delivered to my door
Friday afternoon, fantastic service. Will be stored in my workshop for a winter project, haven't opened the boxes yet, but no external damage noted. Will look over the instructions first. Thanks Mark

 

[Brettm57]

Mtgott, please keep us posted on the installation and how it works after the install. I'd like to do this to my Trail. I haven't because I've read some horror stories about the longer axles not working properly. I would think that if SuperATV hopes to sell these kits they would have resolved that issue by now. Best of luck with yours!

 

[SuperATV]

Mtgott, please keep us posted on the installation and how it works after the install. I'd like to do this to my Trail. I haven't because I've read some horror stories about the longer axles not working properly. I would think that if SuperATV hopes to sell these kits they would have resolved that issue by now. Best of luck with yours!

The axles will be the same length and fitment as the Sport model axles. AC has a patent on the CV shaft, so we got around it by adding a bigger fatter retaining ring...which should be the fix for axles that pop out due to an overextending rear suspension at full drop. Limit straps would also help.

 

[Brettm57]

Thanks for posting SuperATV! As I wrote earlier, I would like to install your kit on my Trail for the better ride and stability at some point in the future. Maybe over the winter.....????

 

[Tmack]

The super atv rear brake line assembly that comes with the long travel kit doesn't fit properly. At least the one I had. It ended up failing I replaced it with a arctic cat sport rear hose assy fit perfect. The banjo fittings are the proper angles where they attach to the calipers. The super atv are not.

 

[mtgott]

The super atv rear brake line assembly that comes with the long travel kit doesn't fit properly. At least the one I had. It ended up failing I replaced it with a arctic cat sport rear hose assy fit perfect. The banjo fittings are the proper angles where they attach to the calipers. The super atv are not.

Thanks for the info, I will have to watch for that when I do the install

 

[bobk]

Hello all. I recently got the long travel kit. Had a buddy do the work. After the first ride out it was discovered that the rear brake line rubbed through from the inside of the rims. Couldn't figure out how or why this happened unless it wasn't installed properly the first time. My buddy seems to think maybe he put the rears on the front or that my rims are too small. I've searched the forum looking for similar issues but I've only found a few posts and haven't found pictures of trails with the long travel kit from the rear. Can anyone help me out and show me where the brake lines should be routed or if you encountered the same issue what your solution was?

I have a 2016 trail xt. I believe my rims are 12" with 27" 's. Perhaps that's the issue?

I went ahead and ordered new rear brake lines from super atv.

Also are fox shocks standard on these? That's what I currently have. And everything I read keeps saying to go with bandits or the very least go with bandit springs. Are they required or just highly recommended? I understand the difference is night and day... Just $1200 for new shocks is a lot after $1800 for the LTK.

I'm a noob at most of this so thanks in advance.

I installed the 60" kit and did notice the rear brake line on the passenger side was a little short (the fronts and rears are different lengths and shouldn't be [from Super ATV] ). I angled the fitting under the engine some to gain some slack. It should not rub on the wheel, loosen it and turn it so the fitting is pointing down or something, just look at it. If you do, you will need to bleed the brakes. I also had to burp the axle boots so they wouldn't retract when extended. you can re-seal w/ the metal bands ( a little hard) or just use a thick zip tie, that works too. I installed bandit springs (light) and they work great. You will also gain an inch of height by tightening them up! the axles will not come out if they are burped! I have fully extended mine many times and they work great!

 

[Tmack]

I did all the same stuff with the brake line. It fatigued at the rear passenger caliper from the bad angle and to short.

 

[Brettm57]

Any updates from y'all's 60 inch kits?

 

[mtgott]

Haven't done a thing with it yet

 

[mtgott]

Finally started taking the Trail apart for the long travel install. Going to have to find a way to pull the rear axles, they're not wanting to come out. Always something, fortunately I have all winter for this project. Being old and slow does have it's advantages, go down to the shop, turn on the heat, crack a brew, figure out what to remove next, repeat, repeat, turn off the heat and go back to the house till the next session. See if I can stretch this out for the winter here in Mn.

 

[DeanTeck]

Finally started taking the Trail apart for the long travel install. Going to have to find a way to pull the rear axles, they're not wanting to come out. Always something, fortunately I have all winter for this project. Being old and slow does have it's advantages, go down to the shop, turn on the heat, crack a brew, figure out what to remove next, repeat, repeat, turn off the heat and go back to the house till the next session. See if I can stretch this out for the winter here in Mn.

about time mark...doesn't winter start in july up your way?...i got it...you've been resting up for the project...being mechanically challenged as i am it's so much easier to trailer our rig to the dealer and go home and take one of many naps...good luck muscling the axles...i'd try nitro!...

 

[mtgott]

Might be next on the list, but the authorities don't want to let old guys have explosives

 

[mtgott]

The Trail with suspension, shocks, axles etc. removed. Just about ready to start installing the long travel kit.

 

[mtgott]

SuperATV, opened all the boxes and I have to say the quality of all the parts looks terrific, suspension arms a very heavy duty and well made, love the adjustability, will watch for the brake lines when I get to them. VERY IMPRESSED Mark

 

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The Trail with suspension, shocks, axles etc. removed. Just about ready to start installing the long travel kit. View attachment 253626 View attachment 253627 View attachment 253628 View attachment 253629 View attachment 253630 View attachment 253626 View attachment 253627 View attachment 253628 View attachment 253629 View attachment 253630

Does that extra muffler make a big difference in noise?

 

[mtgott]

Does that extra muffler make a big difference in noise?

These machines are noisy, the muffler and pipe direct some of the sound downward which does help but far from quiet