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Lets see...Talon.
24K OTD (for the decent one)
$800 for 30's (or 32's)
$1200 for a gear swap
$800 for springs (depending on the valving...maybe another $800)
$1200 for a real cage
$200 for lower doors

Thats 28.2 K and you might be able to keep up with my 20k XX over the 2 ft whoops.

Looks like a nice start though.
 
You can buy a turbo s velocity or x3 xrs here for 23k.
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I think you are in Kali- correct?
that 23k for most dealers is like 26-27 OTD.
A LOT more coin.
I paid 18600 OTD - registered in Kali.
15k for a beat up year old car is not that much depreciation.
My buddy just bought a used XP1000...has clutch issues already...rolling the dice unless you know where it came from.

What do you think the % of folks buy one of these cars for 20K plus and want an A/M suspension? Probably low single digits.
You do not need that with this car is my point. If you do want it- it is there. There is NOTHING wrong with the fab work on RG's stuff. I would be buying the 1k axles also- dual plunge.
They work awesome in stock trim.
A little tweaking and they work even more awesome.

If I was younger, my brother and I (and a few select friends) would be racing the XX in basic stock form...no doubt. That ship has sailed for me unfortunately.



My point is that every car has it's issues. As soon as you start to modify, add weight, leveraged suspension and drivelines, add HP...etc...they become unreliable...you are always chasing something. KISS- Keep it Simple is my mantra.

Do I want the XX to succeed? Hell yeah I do. It's platform is like no other in the industry...precisely why I bought it.
I have a grand total of 20,300 TOTAL into my car - not including a set of paddles and bead locks. Worth every penny so far.

I will get the shocks done some day...as for now, I am adjusting them to my liking in stock form. My brother says he wants the full RG kit with Kings...I laughed and said he wouldn't be any faster or have any more fun with what we ride on. I told him to buy a motorhome with the coin...
 
I think the Honda Talon R will keep up with the XX in 2’ whoops. Neither is going threw them comfortably at more than 55 with stock suspension.

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Totally disagree.
Watch driver movements at the same speed over whoops in each car.
Talon will beat the driver up...yeah it may track through it...but at what comfort level.

XX needs some adjustments... Springs would definitely help no doubt for bump stage. (I will be getting them when mine sag more). Thats only $600 total and you have a great suspension IMO.
 
is that seriously the kind of money they are spending on these machines to make them desert racers?
Tube chassis 4130 with a LOT of one off parts.

They claimed they spent 140k on that car...raced it once...finished 7th at the Mint 400 in the unlimited class. (new driver I think-wife)

And people ask..why can't a 30k XX win races against 75-120k cars?
This new stock class will be the one to watch...in all the series.

The Dakar Speedcats were 4130 one-off chassis (actually 4-off)
 
Mine weighs 1900lbs without me in it and with only half a tank of fuel, so about 2100lbs with me in it and a full tank. I know because I weighed it on a certified scale. I understand racing is on another level, but ive done longer than a 3 mile wash driving hard, not at these power levels, but hard driving enough to where it was either wide open throttle or full on 100% brakes, nothing inbetween. I have bent a few front axles but never a problem with the rear.
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Total loss. I am in oregon, those are out the door prices. The 15k wildcat xx on Instagram was new. Like I said great car lots to offer. Yet no more to offer than other manufacturers at a better cost. I've passed up xp1000s for 13.9k brand new here too

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You don't pay tax either. We do here...I pay a minimal amount for Kali- 7.25%
15k OTD for an XX ? I would like to see that bill of sale.

XP1000's here are 16k otd.
 
. #2 robby Gordon ruined the car with his suspension patents. Who wants to buy a car and only have his parts as an option. Lol.

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You don't need the parts.
Have you driven one?
RG's shit is for the ballers that really can't handle the shit anyway.

Husted has come close...but no cigar.

Ruined the car...LOL

Build something better...good luck.

Chase me in the dez with my stocker.
 
Robby Gordon posted on his instagram page he was told in January no 4 seater and no turbo because Textron did not feel there was a market for them. How do they not have their act together and be so blinded by were the market sells units? Good luck on getting rid of the old inventory of Wildcats. Current owners practically have to give them away on the used market.

I guess the good news is the Wildcat XX will be getting even cheaper.

No 4 seater is one nail in the coffin and no turbo sport model from the factory is the other nail. If they don't have anything to offer by 2020 AC/Textron will be all but done in the SXS market within a few years.

I guess the aftermarket was smart in not invested in products for a car that might not be around in the next 2 years.

The Honda Talon is going to take a piece of the non-turbo market and Kawi has something new coming this year. The n/a market will have lots of players and AC might be the odd man out.

Bum deal for sure.
As long as I can get parts...I really don't care...this car is awesome.
 
I am no stranger to racing I spent the better part of 12 years pitting for my son-in-law who raced stock cars,IMCA modified,s and then 360 limited sprint cars all of which I help build but this is the point about what they’re spending on these so-called factory racing UTV desert cars. Nobody who is bragging about the brand of UTV that they are riding around in for pleasure can brag about their car manufacturer winning these big races because those cars are nothing but name recognition because there’s nothing factory about them except maybe the motor.
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Still waiting for a Wildcat XX to consistently finish desert races. RG and his speed cats have been plagued with problems. There is not reason the Wildcat XX is not up in the top 5 consistently in the non-turbo class.


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Not enough experienced racers racing.
Kolton Husted might finish in the top 5 in points in BITD- my prediction. He will get a podium this year I think.

Seth Quintero is KILLING it right now in NA...picked up Red Bull and he even won the Turbo S giveaway at the UTVWC... #Diamonds

My buds team asked Can AM if they wanted to support an NA car this year...They declined...we would have run the 900 NA X3 if they obliged with some $$$.
 
As for the race stuff- follow Novamans build for the "stock" class. Should be interesting to follow along.
If I was building a stock class racer- the XX would be my first choice...no doubt.
My brother wants to do it- I don't really want to- my tired old bones are pretty worn out for that stuff...and I still like chasing and pitting.

Come to a race and see what it is all about. Silver State 300 next up...