Napa gold filters were on sale (3.79) picked up half a dozen. No reason to over tighten oil filters, contact the gasket then half to three quarter turn. That's why most manufactures put them in a hard to reach location that way most people cant over tighten them.

 

oil filter should be tightened by hand, and if its clean when removing should be able to get it off by hand...not sure why some people wanna tighten drain plugs and oil filters to 10000000 ft-lb

 

Here is a cross reference of oil filters from Fram's website.

Competitor Name	Competitor Part
AMSOIL	EAOM109
APRILIA	857187
ARCTIC CAT	0812-034
BIG A	92359
CARQUEST	85359
CHAMP	PH7016
EMGO	10-55660
EMGO	5703-0540
FRAM	PH6018
HASTINGS	LF588
HIFLO	HF138
K & N	KN-138
LUBER-FINER	PH7016
NAPA	1359
PUROLATOR	ML16818
STP	PH7016
WARNER	PH7016
WIX	51359
WIX	57937

 

Some never get it. Some practicing righty tighty, lefty loosy. Yup, rather do it myself. Dealer got me for over $16. for a standard filter
yesterday. Time to do some shopping.

 

I just run Shell 5W40 synthetic, ran that in all my machines and diesel truck. Makes it easy for me to manage everything!

 

I don't want to call him a liar too soon, i'll probably need him again... and he's like 5 minutes away. the next nearest is almost an hour.

 

Go with Mobil 1 0-40. And a hi flo or k&n 138 or 621. We won't lead you wrong or tell you to do something us others aren't doing our selves.

 

My dealer put in 5w30 Suzuki oil on my first service... When I asked him about it the service manager said it's AC warranty approved and it's what they use on everything they sell or service.

 

My dealer put in 5w30 Suzuki oil on my first service... When I asked him about it the service manager said it's AC warranty approved and it's what they use on everything they sell or service.
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Unless another dealer chimes in I'm calling your dealer a liar. All the AC manuals and service manuals call for 0w-40 Full Synthetic, that oil right there isn't even full synthetic…..will it still be ok, more than likely it will be, but think the only reason your dealer said that is thats the all round oil, and they don't have to worry about different oil for different machines. That to me is just a lazy dealer.


I also run the mobil 1 oil and K&N filter.

 

The Trail has a very high oil pressure until warmed up, also still on high side even after that. A thicker oil can run that pressure up even higher and its already high enough. As said above, its the oil AC says to go with, 0W-40 Full Synthetic.

 

The 0w40 is what is specified by AC as the oil of choice, going with the 15w50 means the oil will be thicker on start up at colder temperatures. If this is harmful for the Trail I don't know for sure as it depends on a variety of things inside the engine.

 

You guys sure that 15w50 is the wrong oil? That I should get 0w40 instead? Please explain if possible

 

i wouldnt waste your money on a k&n, just get a hi-flo. They make the K&N anyhow. Same filter with a nut on the end.
Alex

We install the 621 on oil changes as well.

 

I get my K&N off ebay and they are like a dollar more than the hi-flo, but they are larger capacity so I like that feature, have no need for the nut since I'm the one putting them on I can always get them off easy by hand.

 

Both the K & N 138, and 621 fit both the Trail and the Wildcat. The 138 is a direct replacement for the AC filter, the 621 is longer, filters a little more oil.

 

Thanks, wasn't sure the internal valve was compatible.

 

The K&N 621 is also a fit, and is a bit longer. Both 138 & 621 fit.
I found this in an old thread...

K&N 621
Gasket Material:
Nitrile Rubber
Height:
3.344 in (85 mm)
Weight:
0.06 lb (0.27 kg)
Outside Diameter:
2.688 in (68 mm)
PSI Relief Valve:
Yes
Removal Nut:
Yes
Style:
Canister
Thread Specification:
M20 x 1
　

K&N 138
Gasket Material:
Nitrile Rubber
Height:
3.022 in (77 mm)
Weight:
0.59 lb (0.27 kg)
Outside Diameter:
2.813 in (71 mm)
PSI Relief Valve:
Yes
Removal Nut:
Yes
Style:
Canister
Thread Specification:
M20 x 1

 

The K&N filter for the Trail/Sport is the KN138 and go for full synthetic 0W40.

 

kn621 and hiflo621 will do the trick...they are slightly longer and have more capacity...our a/c dealer installs them (hiflo) on oil changes...

 

Take it back and get the right kit, that one is not for a Trail. Better yet, get your money back and go get Mobil 1 0-40w(5 gal at Wal-Mart for $26) and a K&N 621 filter (it has a nut in top for a socket).