That’s what happens when you buy an off-road manufacturing company and then turn the management over to a golf cart company.

 

It actually is an aviation company.

 

Does anyone else think the red on black is better looking than any of the XX combos, past or present?

 

I like the color combo but would go buy it tomorrow if it had a turbo. Still same underpowered SXS for my needs.

 

Am I the only one that thinks that the word "Tracker" should stay on a bass or pontoon boat?

 

Everybody!!! It’s not confusing like the guy in the video thinks it is. All Tracker branded UTV’s are Textron Arctic Cats. They come off the same production line as the Arctic Cat vehicles, including the XX. Everything is the same. Even the 2019 XX black color! Don’t look to hard to find something different. Besides some decal graphics they are the same vehicles.

There is no conspiracy or secret behind the whole deal. Bass Pro had a full press release about it.

Fact is Bass Pro has been an Arctic Cat Dealer for years. They carried limited styles of ATV’s and even a few UTV’s. So it’s not liked this is a new relationship with the two companies. What is different is that Bass Pro wants to brand the vehicles under their new brand.

So you might want to know how is this good for Arctic Cat? Especially with Bass Pro offering a no haggle price and longer warranty? Well we don’t know what Arctic Cat will do with their MSRP? Maybe they lower it? Maybe not? Really MSRP can be anything you want it to be. Dealers will adjust to a competitive price to sell machines. They can sell for the same or less then Bass Pro if they chose. I don’t know anyone who bought at MSRP. A few have said they paid less then Bass Pros price. The fact is Bass Pro is committed to buying machines from Arctic Cat. That’s a huge PO for Arctic Cat! This means Arctic Cat will be increasing production. Because Bass Pro is committed to buying a spacific amount of UTV’s, they are getting better pricing, which they are then able to pass on to the consumer. And really I think Bass Pro’s Pricing is more in-line where a N/A UTV pricing should be.

How many buy at Costco? I bought a new TV over the holidays. It’s the same spec LG TV that was for sale at Best Buy. Their sale price was $80 more then Costco. Plus Costco gives you a 2 year warranty vs Best Buy 1 year manufacture warranty. Then Costco had a deal for $1 you got a 3 more year Square Trade extended warranty. You might wonder how they can do it? It’s called contracts and volume pricing. Costco sells volume and demands better pricing. LG knows this and wants to be in Costco. Just like Arctic Cat wants to be in Bass Pro.

Another example is Best Buy’s Insignia brand TV’s. They don’t really build TV’s. Best Buy gets bids and the best deal they get is who they contact with to build their house brand TV’s that year. Two years ago I put two Insignia TV’s in my RV. They were actually made by Toshiba or Panasonic?? Yet they were cheaper then the brand name, and had all the same features.

 

Lets see...Talon.
24K OTD (for the decent one)
$800 for 30's (or 32's)
$1200 for a gear swap
$800 for springs (depending on the valving...maybe another $800)
$1200 for a real cage
$200 for lower doors

Thats 28.2 K and you might be able to keep up with my 20k XX over the 2 ft whoops.

Looks like a nice start though.

 

I think the Honda Talon R will keep up with the XX in 2’ whoops. Neither is going threw them comfortably at more than 55 with stock suspension. Sure a driver can have the balls to pin it, but you will be beating the snot out of the car to do it.

The Wildcat XX stock suspension needs help just like the rest of them.

The Talon 1000R has full doors.

Not sure it will need a gear swap to run 32” tires. Watch the Alba video and it seems to pull them. It will for sure pull 30” tires.

I think the pricing will come down on the Honda once the initial rush is over. Kinda like the Wildcat XX pricing tapered off.

The non-turbo market is super competitive with all the choices.


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Shop has both cars, and I have driven both cars.... nothing compares to the XX suspension and steering. PERIOD. I have also driven the Talon with 32's and it definitely lost a good bit of acceleration.

Nate
Alba Racing

 

Well i'll take Nate's word for it! What i noticed when i first drove my XX it feels like you are part of the car. All others don't have that feel. I have 2400 miles on and still counting.

 

They can call it anything they want, I don't care. I think it's a great handling machine with a really powerful Yammy motor.

 

Utube Vid which gives some insight into the Tracker/Textron alignment partnership.

 

YO, Dusty this kinda reminds me of the Polaris, Indian Motorcycle Debacle. I wanted a Indian Motorcycle until i found out they are Manufactured by Polaris.

 

Home and Garden stores sell sxs made by Polaris with a different badge...so what's the big deal. Bass pro sells fishing equipment that is the same as my local fishing store sells...so what's the big deal?

If I wanted a sxs from bass pro..I would buy it. I am fortunate enough to have MLS. If I didn't I would look at Bass Pro

I don't give a damn what you buy or where you buy it , but buy something because these things are fun

 

My response to that would normally be "who lets a dealer wrench on ANY of their toys?", but I met Dean last year, and now it appears that you do, as well.

I know most people don't have the time, and I feel for you. I've learned two things, and they are interrelated: 1) No one will give my toys the attention and detail that I will. 2) If you want it done right the first time and without stress, do it yourself.

By the way, I got a generic "Tracker" ad just now and when I followed it, the XTR1000 is now on the Tracker side-by-side menu.

 

Let's be real the talon is the nail in the coffin for the XX

...what a BS ! :k- ()


lookin at your handful posts just makes me wonder your just a hater or cant handle an sxs !??

 

All of that reminds me of the old saying, which I'm sure most of you have heard: The best way to make a million bucks in racing is to start with several million.

 

I thought it looked a lot better, but I like black and red...….so there's that. lol

 

I thought the name "Polaris" was stooooopid when I bought one...then I got the permagrin and could care less.

Same this time. I just tell everyone it's an Artic Cat...they understand that.

 

Hmmmm so $18k and could probably get that for $19k OTD.....Push turbo for $6500 and now I would have an X3 and RZRS killers for about $25k. Very tempting but nahhhh will wait till Sept.

 

Not to worry, as long as they have rivets and pot metal they will build canams

 

Hmmm, I have 200hp to the wheels, quite a bit more at the crank, yet I ONLY drive in 2wd when in the desert. Weird. Stock axles, 3300 miles on the machine. Something isn't adding up with that story.

 

delete

 

Arctic Cat has been behind the competition for a very very long time.

Now Textron is pushing back and delaying this line even further with no 4 seat or turbo??

Then you complicate branding with Tracker and inconsistent MSRPs?

I hope I'm wrong... but this is a recipe for a sinking ship.

Such a shame ... for most of the off-road community, AC / Textron / Tracker has become completely irrelevant.

 

I spent the money with Shock Therapy to get the upgraded springs all around and limit straps. Now it handles 3' whoops and everything else I throw at it. It handles better than my buddies full race Polaris. I love my XTR!!! Added 32's, rear clutch spring and 32's w/+2 on both sides +4" total width. It runs great. Holds the rpm's around 9800 now and pulls like crazy. I'm not afraid of the turbo cars except in a straight up drag race.

 

I was lucky enough to get one of the last ones rebranded with the pretty colors to Arctic cat

 

 

MLS will beat the price

 

I wish MLS had a store in AZ. But they don't. There are, however, Bass Pro Shops here.

 

Hmmm. Same machine, just different colors and better tires, significantly lower price, triple the factory warranty......makes you wonder what the end game is here? Is Textron trying to move consumers to Bass Pro/Cabelas for the sport oriented models? Are they trying to move all AC buyers over, in order to close dealerships? Maybe nothing at all. Either way, interesting move.

 

Has anyone else noticed that if you go to their home page, they don't show the XTR1000 or is it just me? Yesterday Google didn't even find their home page so some progress was made with the site.

 

Wowow. Textron really wants to screw their dealers.

 

Whether intended or not, this will do it! Who would go to an AC dealer and sit through hard negotiations to get ~$2K knocked off a XX, when you can go to BP or Cabelas and get a no-haggle price that is $4K off? Not me. There must be something else going on behind the scenes.

 

I have a 2013.5x and a 2015x4. I really like the wildcatx, to me, it is a superior machine. The problem is, neither one is worth much over three thousand dollars. I paid over twenty thousand dollars apiece. Buying one of these machines, not just Arctic Cat but all of them is not a good investment. But Arctic Cat and especially since the deal with Textron is the worst of the worst. Buy a new one drive it off the showroom floor and it loses 50%. If I buy another one it will not be the Arctic Cat or Textron. I would not like to be an AC dealer. I hope they survive. D&P in Cedar City Utah has to have a headache over this mess.